Tuesday 16 September 2008

Alef List Posting Number 1

I sent the following email to the Alef List on April 23, 2007. This list is run out of Haifa University and Tony Greenstein and Roland Rance have been regular contributors. The list is not available for general viewing without a password and hence I do not provide a link:

For over 25 years Tony Greenstein has been getting it wrong. He has been told on numerous occasions that he gets his facts wrong, but he will not listen. He continues to spew the same vitriol complete with numerous errors and distortions in the hope that the gullible will pay attention.

On Thu Apr 19 20:00:11 IDT 2007 on Alef, Tony Greenstein stated: "It is a fact that at certain periods of time, the Zionist movement DID collaborate with the Nazis." He didn't provide any evidence for this, but just stated that it as a fact.

He added: "Likewise it is not disputed that the SS and other parts of the Nazi Party had a pro-Zionist attitude." Elsewhere he came out with this gem: "anti-Zionism is never anti-Semitic. If you are an anti-Semite you are no anti-Zionist."


For the record, here is what Hitler thought about Zionism and antisemitism: "For while the Zionists try to make the rest of the world believe that the national consciousness of the Jew finds its satisfaction in the creation of a Palestinian state, the Jews again slyly dupe the dumb goyim. It doesnt even enter their heads to build up a Jewish state in Palestine for the purpose of living there; all they want is a central organization for their international world swindle, endowed with its own sovereign rights and removed from the intervention of other states: a haven for convicted scoundrels and a university for budding crooks."


And here is Goebbels: "The Zionist Protocols are as up-to-date today as they were the day they were first published."


Greenstein mentions that "the 1935 Zionist Congress... approved Ha'avarah (Transfer Agreement)" as if the Ha'avarah was a bad thing. Maybe Greenstein would have preferred that the Jews stayed in Nazi Germany to be slaughtered like numerous European Jews who were trapped in the Nazi clutches. Had Jews from Europe emigrated en masse to Palestine in the 1920's and 1930's they would not have been slaughtered by the Nazis.

Greenstein states categorically: "Kastner of course is well known." Possibly it is, but sadly not by himself. Despite writing about the Kastner trial for 25 years, he cannot get the simplest facts right. I exposed many of his errors about Kastner recently:



Now on Thu Apr 19 22:18:07 IDT 2007

Greenstein argues that "Zionism from its beginnings turned its face against fighting anti-Semitism." Zionists saw the best solution to antisemitism as a Jewish homeland, but this does not mean that Zionists did not fight antisemites. You only have to look at the contribution Zionists made to the

Warsaw ghetto uprising. Indeed in the Yishuv the Zionists were very proud of that fight. An editorial in Zror Michtavim on April 30, 1943 commented on the Jewish resistance: "The honour and the glory of this heroism, enacted on the front line of the war against Nazism, has perhaps no parallel." A further note of pride in the

Warsaw ghetto uprising was expressed in Hapoel Hatzair on March 25, 1943 in an article entitled "Defence Filled With Glory."

On Fri Apr 20 01:40:46 IDT 2007, Greenstein states: "If every staffer in AIPAC were to be vapourised tomorrow... I wouldn't lose a minute's sleep." With comments like that, and discussing whether it is possible to "engineer a nuke that only devastated its offices and personnel" maybe Greenstein has been paying too much attention to Osama bin Laden. But since Greenstein thinks that AIPAC staffers are involved in "naked conspiracies" and look like "shrivelled aliens," it is entirely possible that he also pays too much attention to the neo-Nazi websites that reprint so many of his anti-Zionist writings.

By Sat Apr 21 00:16:55 IDT 2007, Greenstein was repeating his old line about Israel's supposed lack of interest in the fate of Argentinean Jews. Actually the Israeli leaders were very concerned about the situation in Argentina. Yigal Allon, the foreign minister in Yitzhak Rabin's government, stated that those who could be saved, must be saved. Menachem Begin even wanted to help the anti-Zionist radical leftist Jews: "The situation in Argentina is terrible. It is in a state of anarchy. At the embassy they asked what would be done with the leftists. I answered: they should be brought to Israel. The junta should be promised that if they release these people, we will take them home immediately. Let's assume they join Matzpen, we will not approve but nevertheless accept it. Otherwise these young people are lost."


Greenstein's statements cannot be taken seriously. I could go on pointing out error after error after error in his writings. There may be those readers who hail Tony Greenstein as the Emperor. Take it from me: the Emperor has no clothes.


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